The Senator/DR Classic Save 4.0 IS HERE!!!!

[Senator]

This edit pack spans the ages from approximately the 1880s to the current decade, and I'd like to present it as much of a historical lesson as an edit pack, although not the sort of lesson that involves twenty page essays or droning lectures! By all means, look up information on the pioneers, their era was immensely fascinating and laid the groundwork for today's wrestling industry, and even for modern mixed martial arts.

Many of the pre-existing edits have been retooled quite a bit to fit more within the style of their respective times, but are still intended to be fully compatible with the more modern edits on my main save in terms of stats, parameters, and basic logic(For example, I've toned down Brody and Hansen's finisher %, made Gotch and Thesz more balanced in their offense, etc). Even so, the likes of say, a George Hackenschmidt/Evan Bourne match might come off rather strangely...

Suggestions for future edits are great, I have plenty of people planned for future releases, but if you want to see my take on somebody, I'll be glad to take a shot, so long as I have footage/movesets to work with. I'm always delighted to see feedback on my edits, and I always welcome CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, as it helps me improve my edits in ways I wouldn't have noticed.

2.0 Intro

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Finally! After one of the longest waits between any two releases of my edit packs, I've finished the final touches on the 2.0 Classics Save! This time, though, I didn't go it completely alone, as has been my style in the past.

After asking advice for how to make Pioneer era edits, I received an offer I couldn't refuse from longtime FPCer Dhalsimrocks. He had been working on a good number of classic edits, but felt that with family and other pursuits, he would be hard pressed to ever find the time to finish the edits. Instead, he offered to let me use any edits that he started, finish them up in my own way, and also provided invaluable information and advice along the way. I think the results ended up being some of my best edits to date, and as such, I want to thank DR for his contributions to this pack, which are noted in the roster listings.

***Pioneers***
(I count my Pioneer Era as spanning from about 1880, when William Muldoon was the American champ, to the 1940s before the television era began. These are the wrestlers who laid the foundation for today's business.)

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<Pioneers>
-Frank Gotch (DR)
-George Hackenschmidt (DR)
-Martin Burns (DR)
-Great Gama
-Youssuf Ishmaelo (DR)
-William Muldoon (DR)
-Evan "Strangler" Lewis (DR)
-Ernst Roeber (DR)
-Tom Jenkins (DR)
-Jigoro Kano
-Dan MacLeod
-Mitsuyo Maeda
-Eugene Sandow
-Sorakichi Matsuda (DR)
-Tom Cannon (DR)

<Pre-TV Era>
-Ed "Strangler" Lewis
-Joe Stetcher
-Stanislaus Zbyszko
-Earl Caddock
-Jim Londos
-Orville Brown
-Bronko Nagurski
-Gus Sonnenberg

***Television Era***
(My televison era begins roughly from the 1950s, and ends by the early 1980s with the ascendancy of the WWF as a national force.)

Spoiler: show

<Television Era>
-Lou Thesz
-Gorgeous George (DR)
-El Santo (DR)
-Karl Gotch
-The Destroyer
-Pat O'Connor
-Gene Kinski (DR)
-Danny Hodge
-Fritz Von Erich
-Antonino Rocca (DR)
-Edouard Carpentier
-Blue Demon (DR)
-Bobo Brazil
-Stu Hart
-Billy Robinson
-Johnny Valentine
-Dory Funk Jr.
-Terry Funk (70's era)
-The Sheik
-Don Leo Jonathan
-"The Big Cat" Ernie Ladd
-Huracan Ramirez
-Haystacks Calhoun (DR)
-Roland Bock

<WWWF>
-Andre The Giant
-Bruno Sammartino
-Buddy Rogers (DR)
-Superstar Billy Graham
-Freddie Blasse (DR)
-Pedro Morales
-Killer Kowalski (DR)
-Gorilla Monsoon
-George "The Animal" Steele
-Mr. Fuji

<AWA 70's>
-Verne Gagne
-Ivan Koloff
-Baron Von Raschke
-Wahoo McDaniel
-Dick the Bruiser
-The Crusher
-Nick Bockwinkel
-Ray "Crippler" Stevens
-Mad Dog Vachon
-Larry "The Axe" Hennig
-Ox Baker

<Japan Classic>
-Rikidozan
-Shohei "Giant" Baba
-Seiji Sakaguchi
-Animal Hamaguchi
-Kotetsu Yamamoto
-Rusher Kimura

<Martial Arts>
-Dan Gable
-Mas Oyama
-"Judo" Gene LeBell
-Masahiko Kimura
-Helio Gracie

***1980's***
(My 1980s roster actually goes into the early 90s to an extent, do note that my WWF roster is split into face and heel groups for easier organization, and that many placements in one or another can be highly debatable.)

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<WWF 80's Faces>
-Hulk Hogan (80's Prime)
-"Macho Man" Randy Savage
-"Rowdy" Roddy Piper
-Bob Backlund
-Ultimate Warrior
-Superfly Jimmy Snuka
-Hacksaw Jim Duggan
-Bret Hart (80's Hart Foundation)
-Jim Neidhart
-Junkyard Dog
-Tito Santana
-Big Bossman (80's Face version)
-Shawn Michaels (Rockers)
-Marty Jannetty (Rockers)
-Akeem
-Koko B. Ware
-Brutus Beefcake
-Mr. T (WM 1 version)

<WWF 80's Heels>
-"Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase
-Jake "The Snake" Roberts
-Sgt. Slaughter (Heel version)
-Iron Sheik
-Nikolai Volkoff
-Rick Rude
-Paul Orndorff
-King Kong Bundy
-Honky Tonk Man
-Greg "The Hammer" Valentine
-Don Muraco
-Big John Studd
-Bad News Brown
-Bob Orton Jr.
-Ax
-Smash
-Earthquake
-Typhoon
-Ken Patera
-The Mountie
-Giant Kamala
-Iron Mike Sharpe

<NWA 80's
-Ric Flair (NWA era)
-Ricky Steamboat
-Sting (Early NWA version)
-Harley Race
-Arn Anderson
-Ole Anderson
-Tully Blanchard
-Magnum T.A.
-Ricky Morton
-Robert Gibson
-Barry Windham
-Ron Garvin
-"Beautiful" Bobby Eaton
-"Sweet" Stan Lane
-Michael P.S. Hayes
-Terry "Bam Bam" Gordy
-Buddy Roberts

<AWA 80's>
-Stan Hansen
-Bruiser Brody
-Larry Zybszko
-Rick Martel
-Jerry Blackwell
-Nikita Koloff
-Col. DeBeers

<80's Japan>
-Antonio Inoki
-Jumbo Tsuruta
-Riki Choshu (80's NJPW)
-Tatsumi Fujinami (80's NJPW)
-Tiger Mask I
-Masa Saito
-Black Tiger I
-Great Kabuki
-Yoshiaki Yatsu
-Kengo Kimura
-Kuniaki Kobayashi
-Umanosuke Ueda
-Ashura Hara
-Haruka Eigen

<Classic 80's>
-Abdullah the Butcher (Prime Version)
-Jerry Lawler
-Road Warrior Hawk
-Road Warrior Animal
-Dusty Rhodes
-Dick Murdoch
-Kerry Von Erich
-Jessie "The Body" Ventura
-Davey Boy Smith
-Dynamite Kid
-Mil Mascaras
-Dos Caras
-Tony Atlas
-Carlos Colon
-Killer Khan
-Gary Albright
-Tiger Jeet Singh

***1990's***
(My 1990s roster is fairly straight forward, although I did put D-Generation X, the late 90's Four Horsemen, and the New World Order in separate groups from the WWF and WCW, respectively.)

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<WWF 90s>
-Bret Hart
-Stone Cold Steve Austin
-The Rock
-Undertaker
-Kane
-Mankind
-Owen Hart
-"Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig
-Yokozuna
-Rikishi Fatu
-Big Bossman (90's Heel version)
-Ken Shamrock
-Faarooq (Nation of Domination)
-Bradshaw (APA)
-Tatanka (90's)
-Goldust
-Giant Gonzales
-Irwin R.Schyster
-D'lo Brown
-Val Venis
-The Godfather
-Gangrel
-Ahmed Johnson
-Hardcore Holly
-Al Snow
-Hakushi
-Steve Blackman
-Scotty 2 Hotty
-Brian Lawler
-Doink the Clown
-Savio Vega
-Gillberg
-Brooklyn Brawler
-Iron Mike Tyson (DX/WM 14 Version)
-Vince McMahon (90's)

<D-Generation X>
-Shawn Michaels
-Triple H (DX)
-Road Dogg
-Billy Gunn
-X-Pac
-Chyna

<WCW>
-Bill Goldberg
-Sting (90's Crow style)
-Booker T (Harlem Heat)
-Diamond Dallas Page
-Lex Luger
-Jeff Jarrett (Late WCW version)
-Rey Mysterio Jr.
-Chris Jericho
-Eddie Guerrero (WCW version)
-Juventud Guerrera
-Psicosis
-Billy Kidman
-Stevie Ray
-Alex Wright
-Fit Finlay
-Lord Steven Regal
-Meng
-The Barbarian
-Kevin Sullivan
-Dustin Rhodes
-Glacier
-Wrath
-Kanyon
-Norman Smiley
-Blitzkreig
-Squire Dave Taylor
-Hugh Morrus
-Barry Horowitz
-Karl Malone
-Ralphus

<Four Horsemen>
-Ric Flair (90's WCW version)
-Chris Benoit (Four Horsemen version)
-Dean Malenko
-Steve "Mongo" McMichael

<New World Order>
-Hollywood Hulk Hogan
-Kevin Nash
-Scott Hall
-Randy Savage (nWo version)
-The Giant
-Scott Norton
-Konnan (Wolfpac)
-Buff Bagwell
-Brian Adams
-Dennis Rodman
-Eric Bischoff

<ECW>
-Rob Van Dam
-Raven
-Taz
-Sabu
-Terry Funk (90's Hardcore Legend version)
-Bam Bam Bigelow
-Jerry Lynn
-Bubba Ray Dudley
-D'Von Dudley
-Tommy Dreamer
-The Sandman
-Steve Corino
-Mike Awesome
-Shane Douglas
-2 Cold Scorpio
-Lance Storm
-Justin Credible
-Masato Tanaka
-New Jack
-Mustafa Saed
-Yoshihiro Tajiri (ECW version)
-Super Crazy (ECW version)
-Chris Candido
-Kid Kash
-Perry Saturn (Eliminators)
-John Kronus
-Rhino
-Spike Dudley
-Balls Mahoney
-911
-Blue Meanie
-Vic Grimes
-Mass Transit

<90's Japan>
-Mitsuharu Misawa (90's AJPW)
-Shinya Hashimoto
-Kenta Kobashi
-Keiji Mutoh
-Great Muta (Black and white colors)
-Masahiro Chono
-Toshiaki Kawada
-Genichiro Tenryu
-Akira Maeda
-Volk Han
-Nobuhiko Takada
-Akira Taue
-Jun Akiyama
-Jyushin "Thunder" Lyger (90's NJPW)
-Ultimo Dragon
-TAKA Michinoku
-Hiroshi Hase
-Atsushi Onita
-Yoshiaki Fujiwara
-Masakatsu Funaki
-Hiromichi "Kodo" Fuyuki
-Hayabusa
-Kazuo Yamazaki
-Takayuki Iizuka (90's NJPW)
-Osamu Kido
-Bitsadze Tariel

<Classic 90's>
-Big Van Vader
-Alexsandr Karelin
-Sid Vicious
-Dr. Death Steve Williams
-Rick Steiner
-Scott Steiner
-Brian Pillman
-Dan "The Beast" Severn (Pro wrestling version)
-Johnny Ace
-The Patriot
-Jonny Smith

***2000's***
(Most edits that would mesh with these people can be found on my current wrestling save, just in case people are wondering where current day edits are.)

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<WWE>
-Eddie Guerrero
-Brock Lesnar (WWE)
-Triple H (Evolution)
-Kurt Angle (WWF, with hair)
-Undertaker (Early 2000s Biker style)
-Chris Benoit (Late career WWE)
-John Cena (Word Life era)
-Randy Orton (Legend Killer era)
-Umaga
-Matt Hardy (Hardy Boyz)
-Jeff Hardy (Hardy Boyz)
-Edge (E&C)
-Christian (E&C)
-Andrew "Test" Martin
-Perry Saturn (Radicalz)
-Lance Cade
-Mohammad Hassan
-The Hurricane (Mid 2000's run)

<2000's>
-Mitsuharu Misawa (2000's NOAH)
-Kenta Kobashi (2000's NOAH)
-Samoa Joe (TNA X-Division)
-Scott Steiner (Late era WCW)
-Rulon Gardner
-Brian Danielson (RoH)
-Dos Caras Jr.
-Jushin Lyger (CTU)
-Dr. Death Steve Williams (2000's version)
-Christopher Daniels (2005-06 TNA)
-Suicide
-Black Reign
-Super Eric

***Referees***
-Earl Hebner (WWF Referee 80's/90's)
-Livengood (Fictional Referee)
-Charles Robinson (WCW Referee 90's/WWE Referee 2000's)
-Tommy Young (NWA Referee in the 80's)
-Joey Morella (WWF Referee in the 80's)
-Jim Molyneux (ECW Referee)
-Ed Smith (Referee of Gotch/Hackenschmidt)
-Johnny "Red Shoes" Dugan (Referee in the 60's-70's)

***Rings***
-US Special
-AJPW Classic
-WWF Raw
-Smackdown
-Monday Nitro
-AWA
-Pioneer
-NWA

[LgndKllr24]

Thank you so much for posting this! I've been looking forward to the release of this pack for quite some time!

[ohio4987]

Thank you, Senator. I've been looking forward to this pack for quite some time. I'll try it out right away.

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I had a feeling you were going to try to steal Legends of Wrestlemania's thunder.

[mutoh66]

Can someone please convert this to PS3?

[ChuckTheRipper]

sweet

[sonny615]

thanks senator, i'll keep an eye on this one

[ohio4987]

Since he's going to be in the WWE Hall of Fame this saturday, I was wondering if you could throw Koko B. Ware into the pack sometime.

[Senator]

Sure thing, you can expect Koko on the next save:)

[Original Sinner]

So how soon is that roster coming?

[BlueLander]

If the Senator approves, here's the PS3 version.

Never converted a save before, so hopefully I did it correctly.

[mutoh66]

I cant get the ps3 save to work. Anyone else have any success?

[chrisjohnson83]

Any confirmation if the ps3 save works yet?? looking fwd to this one

[pyrodean]

Nice pack senator. Your Goldberg rules!!!! lol.

[mutoh66]

I've got it working now. Don't know what I was doing wrong but it does work

[BlueLander]

Okay. Good to know.

The file size looked kind of small, so I wasn't sure if I did it right (926 kb vs 963)... figured it was just copying from PS2 memory card to PS3 to USB, so I guess I was right

[Indigo]

I haven't posted my thoughts on this yet, but Sen this save is absolutely beautiful

FINALLY, I can sim decent Inoki/Baba matches. Worked my ass off adding these edits to your new World of Wrestling save.

[Senator]

Done some more work on this save lately, adding Ahmed Johnson and Demolition, plenty more where that's coming from, I'm hoping to get some really old school wrestlers on the save, like Ed "Strangler" Lewis, Gorgeous George and such, fill out the tag teams more, etc.

[irishguy3142]

Awesome, I'm really excited for the update... I loved the first version. Thanks for the hard work Senator!

[thefranchise03]

Hey Senator, how about Koko B Ware, JYD, Honky Tonk Man, Earthquake, and Doink The Clown?

[Senator]

Koko is 99% confirmed thanks to prior requests, I'm wanting to add the Natural Disasters(so Earthquake's a lock), JYD and HTM would both be excellent additions, and while Doink is the least likely of the group to be included, I've got a friend who's bugged me for ages to add him, so that's not entirely unlikely.

Also, I've now added Eric Bischoff, nWo Scott Norton, and Ralphus(yes, Ralphus) to the WCW roster.

[equals19]

if youre gonna do doink the clown you should u dink the clown

[Senator]

Been going nuts with this save, it could be released ahead of my Current save. Added the Eliminators(Saturn re-edit and Kronus), the Barbarian(Faces of Fear version), Barry Windham(after two years of meaning to make him), and worked on Jim Molyneux as ECW's ref. I've also done an ample amount of editing on existing guys, and have a lot more planned before the 2.0 release.

[Senator]

Can't wait to release this one, it's been postponed a bit, I'm going to suggest an ETA of a month away, but I do think that the wait will be more than worth it.

Just finished the early work on my Bronko Nagurski edit, among others, including the Mountie, 80's Bossman, Roland Bock and Ashura Hara re-edits, and a lot, lot others whom I shall not disclose just yet.

[sonny615]

Can't wait to release this one, it's been postponed a bit, I'm going to suggest an ETA of a month away, but I do think that the wait will be more than worth it.

Just finished the early work on my Bronko Nagurski edit, among others, including the Mountie, 80's Bossman, Roland Bock and Ashura Hara re-edits, and a lot, lot others whom I shall not disclose just yet.

Sounds great man. Been looking for a good Hara edit.
Completely unnecessary bit of information: "Hara" means "shit" in Hebrew

[mm831]

Just wanted to thank you for all you have done and am definitely looking forward to your next release.