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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby Desertpunk23 on Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:50 pm

and wth do we call the save? Could just go with NWA but that might confuse and piss off someone looking for actual NWA Edits.

all suggestions welcomed, I just came up with three off the top of my head.

Global Wrestling Alliance = GWA

Global Wrestling counsel = GWC

World associated Wrestling = WAW
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby budnc6721 on Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:05 pm

SFW is down to be included. I'd just need to weed out the wrestlers that aren't mine (aka fpcpp members).
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby Desertpunk23 on Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:24 pm

I'm a nerd, and to have the full NWA feel I wrote some bylaws, all subject to change lol.
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BY LAWS
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Section 1 Territories.
- No current or applying member may take a stake in a Territory if disputed by a existing member.
a) However the neutral space between two territory is up to said territory.
b) Promotions of National or Global level are not hindered by section one's rules.

Section 2 World Title
-The World Title can and must be defended by the champion to the universally declared number one contender, once a month.
a) Number one contendership is determined by a Majority vote by the Board of directors.
b) If the World Champion does not accept the defense of his Title or leaves the Wrestling Alliance the Title will be stripped.
c) Should the Title become rightfully disputed a Tournament will take place.

Section 3 Voting
- The Board of Directors will vote on any matters they seem fit.
a) A vote can be called by any member, but for the verdict to pass 60% of the Board must vote.
b) To obtain a spot on the Board of Directors simply join your promotion to the Alliance, and or obtain voting rights from a Promotions leader to act in his stead.
c) If however anyone was to leave the Alliance there vote shall go with them, and if the last vote was not passed before there departure said last vote would be void.
d) After any successful vote the Chairman must pass the vote.
e) A initial vote will be done to decide the chairman of the alliance, every 2 months or being said chairmen departed the Alliance a new vote will be held.

Section 4 Joining the Alliance
- Joining is permitted to any and all Promotions who meet the Guidelines below.

1- Edits under Said Parameter (TBA)
2-Promotion does not exceed a 35 man roster.
3- TBA
4- TBA
5-There is a unanimous vote to keep out said promotion.

Section 5 Media
-The six logo spots and ten ring slots must be approved on, should the slots fill and a new Logo and or Ring is suggested a vote would be held.
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby DeterminedApathy on Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:35 am

You could call it "Independent World Alliance" or something, or maybe just "Independent World." It'd give you an extra default ring ("New IW") to use.
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby red_tide_ on Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:11 am

Ok, since freelancers are in them I'm in. What are the rules for them going to look like? As they are not tied to any one territory or organization how shall they be governed? Also, with title shots being voted on how do the feuds get decided? Annnnnd (a lot of questions) how do the backstories get handled? I know that my few characters have their own history, and I am sure that all the others will, so how or even will they be included?

As for the name, the only input I have is that Alliance should be included somehow, as it will be an alliance of promotions.
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby wholenothalevel on Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:24 am

I'm definitely creating a fed for this Southern Texas Federation (STF)

If there's still room, I can throw in my actual e-fed rosters (CWA) and (AMBITION)
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby caesaro85 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:39 am

You know...count me in...Im going to make a new fed for the cause...

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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby kidcage on Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:45 pm

Alrighty, a couple of quick notes:

1) Punk, if you want Kendoh, by all means, throw him in :). If you want a few more Japanese guys lemme know, I have a 20 man original edit fed of Japanese guys I created.

2) Oh yeah, and I'm so totally in for this. The only thing is whether or not I'll create all new wrestlers for this or just a combination of a punch of premade. I'm thinking that for right now, I'll create a combo of both.

Promotion stuff I'll do later, lol
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby DeterminedApathy on Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:59 pm

The more I think about it, if I do join up, I think I would rather just make a new federation. I've got this weird "thing" about my personal fed, and would like to save it for a save of my own. Anyway, if I do wind up with something to submit, I'll just name it 3A Wrestling and reuse one of the default logos, so you can save the logo slot for somebody else.

Also, in regards to my previous suggestion, if you decide not to use Independent World for the save name, I may use it for a save of my own some day. :mrgreen: If that's the case, I probably shouldn't have gone ahead and suggested it, but too late now. :oops:
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby kidcage on Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:17 pm

DeterminedApathy wrote:The more I think about it, if I do join up, I think I would rather just make a new federation. I've got this weird "thing" about my personal fed, and would like to save it for a save of my own. Anyway, if I do wind up with something to submit, I'll just name it 3A Wrestling and reuse one of the default logos, so you can save the logo slot for somebody else.

Also, in regards to my previous suggestion, if you decide not to use Independent World for the save name, I may use it for a save of my own some day. :mrgreen: If that's the case, I probably shouldn't have gone ahead and suggested it, but too late now. :oops:


You know, it's not too weird, as I could just throw in edits from my main personal fed, but I know the feeling of keeping it for your own.

I like your idea of using the default logo, though. Maybe I might do that.

I think right now, I'm struggling on whether or not I want to do a Midwestern regional fed or a Southwest/Arizona regional fed. If I did Midwest, I could go with "Unified Mid-West Wrestling" or "Midwest High Class Wrestling" (using the High Class logo). For Southwest I've got "Southwestern Wrestling Circuit" or "Arizona Wrestling Group" (using AWG)

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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby Desertpunk23 on Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:00 pm

My PC is acting up, until I can get it running back to 100% or hell 75% this save will have to wait.
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby wepner on Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:21 pm

This is a good idea, I was pumped when scorp brought it up awhile ago.

DP Tokyo isn't in Northern Japan its in the East.

Also I would be down to take the Kansai region (Western Japan/Osaka.)


Also I really don't know about how exactly a stat limit would work, maybe there should be tiers or something like 1 guy with a 250 point limit, 3 or so with a 200 and the rest under 180 or something like that, it would be cool to have a few guys that stand a little above everyone else.

I'd probably have an excuse to actually release my pack and use these guys.
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby Desertpunk23 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:22 am

Yeah Tokyo's not in the north, but i think Tokyo and maybe Yokohama would be a City/Region that every promotion could have shows, america based ones too.

on another note I reset registry but I'm still locked out of 2 programs, other than that my PC works again aside from the fact it refuses to reinstall XP.

on yet another note 8) I like Wepners idea a realistic save would have megastars, so out of the 35 man roster i'd go with

2 Mega stars (230 - 260)
4 Top tier Main Eventers (220 - 229)
6 Main eventers (199 - 219)
6 Upper Card (185 - 198)
13 Mid Card (170 - 184)
6 Opener/jobbers (1 - 169)


Also all rules and guidelines are subject to change or be reviewed until the saves official.

EDIT: then again I was thinking I doubt any of us would make a 365 Monster, so do we really need stat levels. each promotion would be there own, and if there was a uber Edit it'd still have to be agreed on for a offcial Title shot in a sim.
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby wepner on Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:05 am

Maybe just limit the guys over like 220 (or whatever number( and that's it, that way people wouldn't have to go back and rework ALL of their edits.

I'm such a nerd for even bothering with this since it isn't even real but...
Also logistically Tokyo and Yokohama are so close that it would make more sense to do Tokyo, and Osaka since those are the two main regions in Japan (east and west).
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby Desertpunk23 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:41 am

for all japan promotions :P
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For AJCW Id go with a FMW feel, but my regions would be Kanto, Tohoku, Hookaido. Also Kanto would be universal for everyone.

Anyway I'm mulling over the rules and so forth, so once I get something together we all agree on I say lets start this save up. wholenothalevel if you still wanna take care of the actual saves from people I'd be very thankful and dub you the save Master lol

Anyway heres the Ajcw Roster so far. All these guys are on other saves, although I'm reworking them allot.
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FACES
Thunder Kobayashi
Kodo Akino
Saitou
Uesugi Kendoh
Vegita Fuyuki
Jigorah Vegita
Kojima
Dragon mask
Lion Mask
Singh Toa
Shinto Kobe
Hiro Yokoyama
Blue Dragon
Brave SaSaki

HEELS
Kenta Kojima
Yaksha
Takeshi Akino
Komodo Mask
Kodoh Takayama
Oto Nakamura
Ryu Kasaka
Mr.Shango
Setting Sun
Rhine
X Mark

GAIJIN
Legion
Man With No Name
Billy Redd
Andrew Wilson
Tommy Shaw
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Desertpunk
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Jack Frisco
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby DeterminedApathy on Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:41 am

kidcage wrote:I think right now, I'm struggling on whether or not I want to do a Midwestern regional fed or a Southwest/Arizona regional fed. If I did Midwest, I could go with "Unified Mid-West Wrestling" or "Midwest High Class Wrestling" (using the High Class logo). For Southwest I've got "Southwestern Wrestling Circuit" or "Arizona Wrestling Group" (using AWG)

If it makes your decision any easier, I was thinking of running a fed out of the southwest region (except based in New Mexico) myself. :D Plus, Midwest High Class just has a really nice ring to it anyway.

That reminds me, though. How do you plan to divvy up the North American territories, DP?
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby wholenothalevel on Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:53 am

Desertpunk23 wrote:Anyway I'm mulling over the rules and so forth, so once I get something together we all agree on I say lets start this save up. wholenothalevel if you still wanna take care of the actual saves from people I'd be very thankful and dub you the save Master lol



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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby kidcage on Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:50 am

DeterminedApathy wrote:
kidcage wrote:I think right now, I'm struggling on whether or not I want to do a Midwestern regional fed or a Southwest/Arizona regional fed. If I did Midwest, I could go with "Unified Mid-West Wrestling" or "Midwest High Class Wrestling" (using the High Class logo). For Southwest I've got "Southwestern Wrestling Circuit" or "Arizona Wrestling Group" (using AWG)

If it makes your decision any easier, I was thinking of running a fed out of the southwest region (except based in New Mexico) myself. :D Plus, Midwest High Class just has a really nice ring to it anyway.

That reminds me, though. How do you plan to divvy up the North American territories, DP?


Alrighty then, I'm taking portion of the US Midwest. There are eight states in the US Midwest, so I took four, leaving the others in case someone else wanted to take them. If not, lemme know. So with that decision made:

Midwest High Class Wrestling (MHCW)
Promotional Radius: Illinois - Iowa - Indiana - Michigan
Base of Operations: Moline, Illinois

TV Show: Midwest Mayhem
Quarterly TV Special: Showcase of Stars

In terms of edit levels, maybe if we made an overall point cap of let's say 220 like Wepner said, I think that allows some leverage per promotion to create stars to meet what they want. For instance, for the most part my edits never hover above the 170 range only because I don't want to be overpowered, but if I had an idea of what I could go up to, then I'd know that it's okay to create somewhat of a regional "Superstar."

Also, the guidelines and everything sound fine so far, I'm wondering though how we'd go through the motions of then running it. I know it's in the beginning stages, but I figure this would be something to ask. For instance, if we decided to all group together in somewhat of an e-fed, would the individual promotions be charged with posting upcoming matches/match results (much like Punk and I do over in the unofficial official gimmick e-fed thread)?

Either way, I'm completely in for this. I was also wondering how people were going to break down their rosters (IE: Singles wrestlers v. Tag Teams).

The fun part will be in true NWA style, having: World Champ, US Champ, TV Champ, World Tag, US Tag, World 6-Man Tag, etc.

Though for right now, World Heavyweight and Tag Champs are probably as far as we're getting.

Color me excited, I'm definitely in. And anything I can do to help put saves together, I'll be more than happy to help.
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby caesaro85 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:45 pm

Nice Cage..got me thinkin...

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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby wepner on Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:56 pm

Someone should really post this over in the FPCPP sub forum, seems like something that would be really good for their.

As for the whole e-fedding thing it seems like a lot of people could literally just link to their existing e-fed. But I know I wouldn't be able to do too much during the school year.

On my end I am much more interested in getting the pack together to kind of showcase the original edits on this board. IMO initially it would be awesome to set up a big tourney to crown the initial champions and then from their maybe a narrative can emerge or maybe it could just be arbitrary. Obviously this is DP23's deal so he has the final say on everything, I'm just saying what I think.
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby Desertpunk23 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:20 pm

We would have Official World Champs for heavyweight, Juniorweight and Tag. Other than that you would be more than welcomed to have your own promotional Champions, maybe we could even have a US Title like the old NWA did.

You could post cards, crown your own world champs and show off any sims but the Official sim champs would be the reconized world champions.

EDIT
Also I bumped up the total Promotions Roster limit to 38
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Anyway I worked on V2 of the overall rules, if theres something missing or you think we don't need a certian review let me know.

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Rules
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1- No edit restrictions aside from the following
(- 4 Edits per Roster that are over 205 Parameter
(- No edit can exceed 260 Parameter


2- Anyone can join simply send your save to wholenothalevel The Save Master.
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(-There is a Two Promotion limit per member, yes you can have 2 promotions, but still only one vote on the board.
(- Also post your Roster in the thread, region and any other promotion details..

3- Anyone can leave the Alliance at any time.

4- You may also post Ring Formulas, belt designs and Logo
(-Best get in via voting.

5-There is a 38 Edit Roster limit, however you are allowed to submit upto 10 Freelance per Month.
(- Still not happy? You can still get that extra edit/s in the save. It's easy simply obtain a spot on another Members roster, how you do this is upto you and said member.

6- Any question feel free to ask, also for the actual Alliance official Titles check the Bylaws.
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BY LAWS
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Section 1 Territories.
- No current or applying member may take a stake in a Territory if disputed by a existing member.
a) However the neutral space between two territory is up to said territory.
b) Promotions of National or Global level are not hindered by section one's rules.
c) Regions like Tokyo, LA, London, Vegas and NYC are open to ANY Promotion

Section 2 World Title
-The World Title can and must be defended by the champion to the universally declared number one contender, once a month.
a) Number one contendership is determined by a Majority vote by the Board of directors.
b) If the World Champion does not accept the defense of his Title or leaves the Wrestling Alliance the Title will be stripped.
c) Should the Title become rightfully disputed a Tournament will take place.
d) Think you got a wrestler who deserves a shot? Simply submit him as your number 1 contender and the Board will vote.
d2) To make your case provide Video proof or ask for a review of the Wrestler on the Save.

Section 3 Voting
- The Board of Directors will vote on any matters they seem fit.
a) A vote can be called by any member, but for the verdict to pass 60% of the Board must vote.
b) To obtain a spot on the Board of Directors simply join your promotion to the Alliance, and or obtain voting rights from a Promotions leader to act in his stead.
c) If however anyone was to leave the Alliance there vote shall go with them, and if the last vote was not passed before there departure said last vote would be void.
d) After any successful vote the Chairman must pass the vote.
e) A initial vote will be done to decide the chairman of the alliance, every 2 months or being said chairmen departed the Alliance a new vote will be held.

Section 4 Joining the Alliance
- Joining is permitted to any and all Promotions who meet the Guidelines below.
1- Promotion does not exceed a 38 man roster.
2-Freelance Roster is allowed for any promotion.
3-If there is a unanimous vote to keep out said promotion, that promotion will not be Availible for mebership.

Section 5 Media
-The six logo spots and ten ring slots will go to the best designs.
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby chango on Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:33 pm

I'm in! ive got a new fed in the pipeline so this is perfect!
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby kidcage on Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:18 pm

Punk,

The updated rules are awesome. The ability to have four 205 - 260 edits will definitely give some "regional superstars" feel to it, and the max roster of 38 allows for some slightly large promotions (in comparison, some may not have that many.)

In terms of the posting of cards, I think that would be perfect. I think the ability (if possible) of one of us being able to sim/broadcast the official things would be cool.

Like I said, I'm completely in for this. Maybe we can also keep a running tally of who's covering which areas. Also, anything to help out I'd like to try and do.
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby Desertpunk23 on Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:47 pm

I;m only gonna submit one of these Logo's with a Ring for the save, which looks better?
note that shouyld be white not gray but my web cam doesn't like FPR's color scheme.
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Re: Save Idea NWA type deal.

Postby kidcage on Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:01 pm

Definitely the second one.
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